Platform
Android, PC
#41
Ich kann mich da Melisandre nur voll und ganz anschließen.
Finde auch das die Otters einen tollen Job machen und sehr bemüht sind alles am Laufen zu halten, bzw wie neulich alles schnellstmöglich wieder in Ordnung zu bringen. Auch von mir an dieser Stelle nochmal ein herzliches Dankeschön für die großzügige Entschädigung. Trotzdem finde ich es schade, dass einige Dinge (Dorfbewohnererfahrungstränke) nicht von Ardentmitgliedern genutzt werden können.
Dass nun auch noch die Bonis der Ardentmitglieder gekürzt oder gar gestrichen werden, schlägt mir dann doch etwas auf den Magen. Auch in meinen Augen fehlt immer mehr der Anreiz noch weiter die Mitgliedschaft zu nutzen. Zu hoch der Preis für das was mittlerweile nur noch geboten wird. Schade das gerade Dinge wie Sockel oder Voltanswiederbelebung gekürzt oder gar ganz gestrichen werden. Wer braucht Reperaturglobulis, da sie ja beim Sammeln droppen (meine pers. Meinung).
Aber evtl. könnte man ja wenigstens, einen Kompromiss finden, mit dem sich mehr Spieler besser anfreunden könnten.
Von daher mein Vorschlag einer Umfrage, in der ermittelt wird, welche Gegenstände als Boni bei den Spielern mehr Zuspruch finden würde!!!
Wäre toll wenn viele mitmachen würden, denn wie heißt es so schön, "GEMEINSAM SIND WIR STARK" ;)
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I can only fully agree with Melisandre.
Find also that the Otters do a great job and are very keen to keep everything going, or as recently as possible to bring everything back in order as soon as possible. Also from me at this point again a big thank you for the generous compensation. Still, I'm sorry that some things (villager experience potions) can not be used by Ardent members.
The fact that now also the bonuses of the Ardent members are cut or even canceled, hits me then but something on the stomach. Also in my eyes the incentive to use the membership is missing more and more. Too high the price for what is now only offered. It's a pity that things like pedestal or Voltans revival are being cut short or completely canceled. Who needs repair globulis, since they drop when collecting (my personal opinion).
But maybe you could at least, find a compromise, with which more players could make friends.
Therefore, my suggestion of a survey, which is determined which items as bonuses would be more popular with the players !!!
Would be great if many would join, because as the saying goes, "TOGETHER WE ARE STRONG";)
And please excuse my bad english ^^
 
Characters
Caraldor / Loxana / Sir Luther
Platform
iOS, PC
#42
From my perspective, this is a price drop because the overall price has dropped. It only becomes an increase if you choose to purchase the removed sockets and/or resurrects. Certainly the game might become harder with less of these but it could also be more challenging and fun!
I’m not sure it would get harder, I have lived without AS until now, and still have a pile of free sockets and rezzes. Although my max level was 76.... I did buy AS for the XP boost so I can level higher faster before the month is up.

I can see the point of others who have posted that AS changes don’t have much to offer high level characters, so I hope the otters have another plan to encourage them to stay with the game, otherwise..... the only reason to come back is with new expansions, which really seems normal to me after pkaying other games and then going back when something new is released.
 
#43
Guys and girls - first of all you don't loose any socket!!! On the contrary, the monthly calendar grants you five - unless of course you all were counting on 3 + 5 each month.

The rezzies, yes I find those a pity too, to loose out on them :(

But before everyone starts complaining, please do remember, we just got a whole bunch of free stuff, more then was worthed ,for the loss of our playtime + 225 crowns (former AS players) and 25 crowns as active player.

Also do not forget the monthly calendar also give us good items - even mounts!
I thought this thread was addressing AS changes. The calendar and compensation items were given to everyone. The crowns for AS players were to compensate for AS reimbursement. I found the compensation a very kind and considerate way to show the community they honestly do "walk in the players shoes".

The calendar rewards do not require membership. With the continued removal of premium items membership basically becomes a charity contribution. Players must see AS as an advantage. Some will join based solely on the increase in xp for skills but not many.
 
Platform
PC, Steam
#44
After reading about the changes to my AS, I decided to ask my nephew and his friends about their game subscriptions. I specifically wanted to know what perks they automatically expect with any paid membership. Let's just say that current AS perks do not even come close to meeting their expectations. Why should it matter what they think? Well, because their opinions are shared by the gaming community in general. Most players aren't willing to pay more for less when they can just go somewhere else and get a better deal. I'm sorry, but monthly calendar rewards do not count. These are free items offered to all players regardless. AS is an entirely different situation. Players pay for those extra perks and expect to get their money's worth. The point of my post isn't to be offensive or overly critical. As a supporter, I want to see this game succeed and prosper. Were it to fail then I would also suffer the consequences of that failure. If I feel that a decision isn't in the best interest of the game or our community, then I have no other choice but to speak up. Regards.
 
Characters
Caly Adaria Chrysis & 2 others
Platform
PC
#45
I'm not gonna get long winded but I am a little disappointed with these changes. It won't stop my membership but the more changes and nerfs that show up the more I and my husband will consider giving up our a.s.
 
Likes: Golden Dawn
#46
The Otters need to do what is best for this game. We may think our opinions are facts, but the fact is they decided this is a good idea.

This is a real non pay to win (p2w) game in a genre where really does not mean much at all. Most games advertised as such cost more than games with a subscription, and many of the ones with subscriptions have p2w elements. Something to consider while you are checking your math on pricing.

I don't feel that sockets and rezzies make the game p2w nor do I know for certain why these items are being reduced but I can guess that it has to do with future development and updates to combat. The abundance of these items makes it harder to make content more challenging, which costs more development time. Making a successful game is driven a great deal by what we players ask for, and we have been asking for more challenging content. (not me I love lazy runs)

In the end the question is not the value you put on AS, but what sort of game do you want to pay for?
 
Characters
Frostalite and Herocrusher
Platform
Android, PC
#47
I have been an AS member for at least a year. I buy it because I can afford it and I know the game needs to make money inorder to stay around. I do use the sockets and will be sorry to see them go.
What really disappoints me is the way this all was presented. The price was cut, but in order to receive the same perks, it was actually a price increase. Just tell it like it is. Don't make it seem like it is anything else, I would understand.
 
Characters
Arjuna
Platform
Android
#48
I left the game in February because my toon is maxed out at 5 rebirths and I got bored. I will return when the expansion releases, but I do not see myself renewing an Ardent Membership without crowns and resurrect. Like everyone else, the other items aren't a draw for me.

Here's what I would pay for though:
I wouldn't mind having a second toon (especially if there's a new class coming) however, there is NO WAY that I'm going to level through 5 rebirths again through the same content that I already played through 5 times (UGH!).
LISTEN UP OTTERS
I would pay a good amount of cash to start a new toon at the 5th rebirth!


For accounts with a 5 rebirth character, please give us the option of starting another toon at the 5th rebirth. I have zero desire to level again, but would pay for this option!!! $$$

Thanks!
 

Roselda

Great Adventurer
Characters
Roselda, Rozelda
Platform
PC
#49
I wouldn't mind having a second toon (especially if there's a new class coming) however, there is NO WAY that I'm going to level through 5 rebirths again through the same content that I already played through 5 times (UGH!).
LISTEN UP OTTERS
I would pay a good amount of cash to start a new toon at the 5th rebirth!


For accounts with a 5 rebirth character, please give us the option of starting another toon at the 5th rebirth. I have zero desire to level again, but would pay for this option!!! $$$
I feel the same way about the rebirthing process. Having to do the quests over and over again is tedious and gets boring very quickly. But I don't think starting at the 5th rebirth is the answer. Maybe have the option during the rebirth to keep all the quests that've been done?
 

Arjuna

Grand Priest
Characters
Arjuna
Platform
Android
#50
But I don't think starting at the 5th rebirth is the answer.
Why not? The Otters want to make money for their game, and this is something that I more than willing to pay them for.

It should only be available to an account that already has a 5 rebirthed toon.
 
Platform
PC
#51
I left the game in February because my toon is maxed out at 5 rebirths and I got bored. I will return when the expansion releases, but I do not see myself renewing an Ardent Membership without crowns and resurrect. Like everyone else, the other items aren't a draw for me.

Here's what I would pay for though:
I wouldn't mind having a second toon (especially if there's a new class coming) however, there is NO WAY that I'm going to level through 5 rebirths again through the same content that I already played through 5 times (UGH!).
LISTEN UP OTTERS
I would pay a good amount of cash to start a new toon at the 5th rebirth!


For accounts with a 5 rebirth character, please give us the option of starting another toon at the 5th rebirth. I have zero desire to level again, but would pay for this option!!! $$$

Thanks!
Why play the game when you can just buy a maxed toon? Consider how this would negatively effect the rest of the game. I am astonished at how bad this idea is. You say you left the game because you were bored with a maxed 5 rebirth toon but you would pay good money for another one? This makes no sense.
 

Damon Otter

Mad Otter Games
Developer
#53
Hi Everyone,
We're listening to all of you here.

Here's some background on why we made this change. With the compensation packages, we had to take a closer look at items in the game. We saw that subscriptions were spamming items to every server of every subscriber (so potentially 5x more than intended). It's not a disaster since players usually stick to one server, but it's sloppy game design (on our part), so we thought we should re-balance it. We can later, when we have time, change the system to only target one server, but that's a bit of work.

Personally, we like the concept of a membership providing some goodies every month, but we need to make sure it's balanced. One problem we see with the current membership is that one of the primary benefits of membership is the huge xp gain for members. However, for players at or near level-cap, that's not worth much. So membership has a differing value for a player based on their situation. So, we still need to think about all of this. For now, the cheaper membership with some items removed seemed like a quick solution, and quick is good right now since we need to focus on other projects in the aftermath of the hack (like getting pc crown shop back up- which is finally working), automatic backups (we were having to do this manually since the hack), etc.

Best, Damon
 
Platform
iOS
#55
Hi Everyone,
We're listening to all of you here.

Here's some background on why we made this change. With the compensation packages, we had to take a closer look at items in the game. We saw that subscriptions were spamming items to every server of every subscriber (so potentially 5x more than intended). It's not a disaster since players usually stick to one server, but it's sloppy game design (on our part), so we thought we should re-balance it. We can later, when we have time, change the system to only target one server, but that's a bit of work.

Personally, we like the concept of a membership providing some goodies every month, but we need to make sure it's balanced. One problem we see with the current membership is that one of the primary benefits of membership is the huge xp gain for members. However, for players at or near level-cap, that's not worth much. So membership has a differing value for a player based on their situation. So, we still need to think about all of this. For now, the cheaper membership with some items removed seemed like a quick solution, and quick is good right now since we need to focus on other projects in the aftermath of the hack (like getting pc crown shop back up- which is finally working), automatic backups (we were having to do this manually since the hack), etc.

Best, Damon
I realize that you all are still cleaning up from The Dark Times, but I would like to suggest that perhaps having a "base set" of AS perks (free travel, increased xp, etc.), and then members could pick 1 (or more) add-ons for each subscription renewal period, thereby allowing players to change their focus as they work their way through the game, and their RBs. For example:
- Option 1: Sockets & Rezzies only
- Option 2: Health & Mana only
- Option 3: "Villager special" with pots for gathering, crafting & ranching
- Option 4: "Hero special" with pots for combat & loot
This would allow for some customization of each members AS perks, but still limit the ability to turn AS into just a P2W option.

I know - it makes for a LOT more work - so stick this in the "parking lot" of ideas for later. ;)
 
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